Page 1 of 2: 1: 2 : Tweet LinkBack: Thread Tools: Display Modes: post #1 of 23 Old 05-17-2003, 07:10 PM Thread Starter. I was just wondering, when people talk about double tracking, even quadruple tracking guitars, do they mean A) record it 4 separate times using 1 head, one cab, however many mic on that one cab or B) record it once using 4 (or more) mics, and using 2 (or more) heads & cabs? Is this practical?I think this would be amazing. This is for the rest of us who use a tattered combo amp and a pedal or two: How many of you split the signal into two small combo ambs and mix by … Those of you who perform with racks full of equipment that would put major recording studios to shame need not apply. I read that recording two mics at same time causes phasing issues? I have a garage full of amps and have found that for home recording, a Mooer GE350 beats them all. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. Not only will it allow you to play both amps at once but you can also switch between them. I think it was tape op this month that had an article on how green day made their first cd (dookie?) Using two amps at once is a great way to get a good sound. One of the reasons this happens is due to ground hum. Works well, but like others have said, you've really got to watch the phase. But indeed the trick pjk mentions is a great work around when ya need to tie 2 amps together. I like the Marshall for its clean tones but its distortion is CRAP. But keep in mind that the Axe-Fx Standard can do this but does not leave much DSP-headroom for very much else. report. I think that might have been in regards to recording one of the signals direct though, not both signals going through amps if that makes a difference. The Legend II series of pedals are a studios engineers dream come true. More than once I’ve heard an unusual sound when recording an amp and realized the phase switch was reversed on one of the preamps. two amps at once; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Close. md441,md421II,E609,At4047. hide. I do it with amp sims all the time... same idea. Is this possible? An ABY splitter? second upload today some have asked about my method of running two amps together, so...here it is! one of the nicest features is that the little speaker is easily disconnected; run that puppy through a 15″ Clarion speaker for a mind-blowing sound. Careful with your expectations though. Sometimes it's better to pan them apart. All three of these outputs can be used simultaneously! Gear, Equipment, Recording & Off Topic Gear, Equipment, and Recording discussed here. I've tried recording 2 amps at once. But the Mooer has opened up a whole new world. save. ... Two amps at once ... one cab? I recently ordered a second guitar amp and since my pedalboard already supports stereo I wanted to try recording both amps at once. I never got past the 2 amp 2 stack phase. Blending the two signals together will give you a lot more sounds to choose from - and you can get the best of both worlds via mixing. Then I usually have an sm7, sm57, 421, 121, km184, re20, d112, and a 906e setup. I have recently recorded guitar in a major professional recording studio playing "stereo" with two amps at ones (splitting the signal from my line 6 delay pedal). ... you simply "arm" the two tracks for recording and press record only once . If you prefer live backline for monitoring but still want something small and affordable, one great choice is a Roland Cube, such as the Cube 40GX. Also doubling tracks and panning hard left and right etc. Ok I have been getting good tones recording 1x mic and 2x mics on the same cab. I've done it with the moonshine and the blondeshell, also with a box royal guardsmen and a Marshall DSL 40 combo. Watcha think? and would you include a Preamp out on your amp as one of these tracks? Recording the rhythm once with two Amps, then the lead parts with two Amps and blend/remove one/eq depending on the sound I am after really speeds up the recording process. I've been giving the a go lately in the form of slaving cabs, aka one head, two different cabs. The best lead tone i have ever heard was old mesa boogie mk IIC+ into a mesa quad box. Jeff . In my next session coming up I want to try recording two guitar amps at once from one guitar in order to get two different amp sounds for my ryhthym guitar tracks. For a split signalI'd probably consider the speakers facing out, so the amp is a little of a baffle to the other amp. To add more textures, you just use an ABY and record two amps at the same time (i.e. Also doubling tracks and panning hard left and right etc. Tied a stack of amps together with a stack of cabs and your good to go. The device you need is common and it called an AB-Y switch. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. When you plug into two amps, you’ll often hear a strong humming sound that vibrates out of your speakers. Some eq going on on the channel strips. Originally Posted by LesStrat. A good modeler is perfect for home recording. Send signal to both amps - the signal doesn't really weaken its strength in half, only about 5%. A passive AB-Y only has a set amount of juice to send, so if you split the signal between the amps the volume of the amps will drop. Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio, Already have an account? Amps, pedals, whatever. As is well known around the music industry that the bog-standard microphone for recording guitar amps is the Shure SM57. Micing two amps with one mic can cause phasing problems because the sound from each amp reaches the diaphragm at different times (not to mention the off-axis issues you have here). Having worked with bands like INXS, AC/DC, Cold Chisel and the Divinyls, Mark Opitz, suffice it to say, knows a thing or two about recording guitar amps.AudioTechnology caught up with Mark at Studios 301 in Sydney where he revealed one of his prized techniques for capturing the amplified guitar sounds. 2.1K Studio & Recording; 1.6K Making Music; 153 Events; 15 Guitar Show 2018; 383 Plug My Stuff; 72.5K Classifieds; 27.5K Guitars £ 1.6K Acoustics £ 69 LH Guitars £ 457 Basses £ 6.4K Parts £ 12.9K Amps £ 24.1K FX £ 1.4K Studio & Rec £ 4.4K Misc £ 376 Personnel; 38.2K Chat; 24.5K Off Topic; 422 Tributes; 535 Coronavirus Hey there! For instance, if 8 gauge cable is sufficient for your amps, you may want to use 4 gauge cable for your run to the battery. Recording Two Amps. It's why Nergal has such a bad ass tone. Due to the fact that your power cable needs to handle the current draw from all of your amps at once, it needs to be significantly larger in gauge than called for by the specs of your individual amps. In the worst situation, a beginner pupil might not be able to hear clearly "who is playing what". Need to record two amps at once. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Voodoo Labs has a great splitter for this. My question is this, can someone tell me how to combine these two amps to where I can hear both amps at once and it work through my computer. Sounds cool with two little 5 watt amps. All about the tools and techniques involved in capturing sound, in the studio or on location. Jemsite > Guitars and Gear > Gear, Equipment, Recording & Off Topic > Hooking 2 amps up at once. I recently recorded an album and the guitars were recorded with 3 different amps+cabinets. Hello, I'm new to this sub so if I've posted this question in the wrong place then please kindly redirect me! Works with Marshall as well as several others. - the guitar sounds was a 2 amp split, panned L/R. [url]http://www.soundclick.com/sixfeetover[/url], If this is your first visit, be sure to It seems a bit much for my taste, too... Running two amps into the same cab is easy, though. All the time, I use a Little Labs splitter and different combos of amps depending on the track. enjoy! The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know. I usually track a DI signal (Radio J48), and I split that signal to two or three amps trough a George Lynch Tripler. This can be cool, but you really want to spend the time to make sure that they two amps/mics have a good phase relationship. As for recording guitar amps, all three of these types of microphones can be used and a combination of them could result in some excellent sounding recording. I have an XTC 101b and a Lonestar Classic. Watcha think? If you want to use two amps simultaneously, there are some things you need to know before you flip on those power switches. In the day before big PA systems that was how the big guitar sounds in stadiums got done. The result was beautiful live but terrible at the recording. Some higher-end modelers, such as the Line 6 Helix, can model multiple amps, cabs, and mics at once for blending tones, too. A friend gave me his radial big shot aby pedal for a few weeks. Is there any purpose of recording with 2 amps? You want this trick to make the guitars bigger not smaller. Reply. The answers are generally good for the question as asked, but miss one important point. That’s because what you’ll be recording with your physical microphones are the exact vibrations in the air: the sound of your amplifier blowing up, at that precise time, and perhaps in a more romantic sense, in that moment . Re: Two amps at once ... one cab? Is there a way for me to record two amps (a bass amp and a guitar amp) at the same time with one microphone while still making it sound good? I've also used a Yamaha THR30 and Vox Adio Air GT straight into the computer via USB. You need an account to post a reply. Need to record two amps at once. amp 1+cab1 had the dry signal and was miced with 2 mics ( 421 & 906 ) and amp 2+cab2 & amp3+cab3 has all the effects 100wet each miced with one 57. Behringer makes a couple low cost versions, or you could build your own (I did). I was thinking about splitting the signal right after it comes out of the guitar via a Y splitter. share. my general chain is usually guitar --> OD808 --> JD7 then it splits into DI out to the DAW, and then three offshoots to 3-4 different amps. Jim Santo March 15, 2013 at 7:23 am (8 years ago) two thumbs up for the Pro Jr., a/k/a “rock in a box”! Any help would be great. When it comes to recording ‘broken’ or pushed-to-the-brink amplifiers, however, a mic’d setup will always prevail. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Use the different outputs for recording direct and micing at the same time, run different effects through different outputs, or record three DAW tracks all at once. hey! If the Y splitter wont work what will I need? I am doing this on the current album I am producing. 1. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. 7 Comments on The Best Small Tube Amps For The Recording Studio. If you're planning on doing a lot of recording, an external hard drive would be a good idea - FW800 if you can, FW400 or USB would be OK. Many producers will use one of these or a combination of these. I am glad that's people do practice this method as I love the sound of two different amps recorded identically with the phase flipped. For recording, I'm thinking about running both these two amps simutaneously through the Marshall cab and mic'n both sides. That’s not to say you shouldn’t try using an out-of-phase mic, but to begin with, I’ve always found it a good practice to first record with everything in phase. From guitar, use an A+B box (not an A OR B box). Combining 2 amp profiles, or combining a profiled fuzzbox and an amp profile, that adds a multitude of possibilities. Worked really well but you'll get lot of tracks... Behemoth does this constantly. Ok I have been getting good tones recording 1x mic and 2x mics on the same cab. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. the sound was very small and almost add a midi quality to it. we did 5 at once for a harmonica player hahaha 2 different leslies - though i think we ended up using the super reverb, great for picking and choosing tone or thickening up. I like the refined driving tone of the XTC and I really like the thick warm sound of the Lonestar. You don't have to pan them. Two per amp, then I bring them all up some 512c's, 1073s (or vintechs), and a Chandler TG2 then on the console buss them to a single signal and route them into a distressor, then to a pultec or PE1C, whichever is available, then it's straight into the DAW. 6 posts • Page 1 of 1. The routing and recording options are endless. Recording Two Amps At Once? I use it a lot and love it. You can get annover drive sound out of one and a cleaner sound out of the other and no matter how much gain you have you still get note clarity. Wed, Jul 07, 2010 12:42am. I think I remember hearing some people saying not to do this because it creates phase problems or something along those lines. I could not run 2 amps with 2 dual-cab setups (which sums up to 4 different cabs) due to DSP-limitations. Sure, go for it. Need help recording 2 guitar amps in stereo. I'd have to set the amps to 4ohms...no prob. Fri, Jul 02, 2010 7:43pm. 22 comments. Posted by 2 years ago. I was wondering if anyone runs thier gat into two different amps and mics and records them at the same time, say an orange or vox on one side and marshall, mesa or blackstar on the other? For recording, I'm thinking about running both these two amps simutaneously through the Marshall cab and mic'n both sides. If you are using a single loudspeaker for both guitars, that will seriously degrade the "sound separation" of the two instruments whatever amp(s) you use, even if you avoid obvious intermodulation distortion. check out the. - a Recto and a Stiletto), then play a second time with both amps. Usually the same idea with bass, 2-3 amps + DI, LA2A, then Pultec/PE1C then DAW. Print view. I often record multiple amps at once. Sometimes just blending the two into a mono "super-amp" track can be cool. there is a certain thing i need to know before recording stereo? 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